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I plan to get the Leaseweb server on volume network to run my video streaming site.

Another choice is Choopa(USA) which have a better speed.
Leaseweb advantage is have more option of bandwidth upgrade, 250mbps, 500mbps, 1gbps.

I'm worry about the volume network and suspect it is only a shared port. Choopa is confirm have a dedicated port, but only 100mbps and 1000mbps.




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I would suggest contacting the providers directly. Most providers will not have clients on a dedicated PORT unless they are running unmetered bandwidth. But to be sure, contact them. Good luck!


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Yeah contact their sales to verify and confirm. I don't think the connections are dedicated. Most budget providers still use 'shared' ports.


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Leaseweb's network is massive. I really doubt they are oversubscribing customer ports -- they just don't need to.


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Leaseweb just confirm it is on dedicated port too.

Is 100mbps unlimited dedicated port really mean you can get 100mbps speed always ?

Let's say they put 100 users on a 1000mbps, it is ONLY 10mbps per user and assume most user comsume less bandwidth. Can they said you are on a 100mbps DEDICATED PORT in these case ?


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I would suggest contacting the providers directly. Most providers will not have clients on a dedicated PORT unless they are running unmetered bandwidth. But to be sure, contact them. Good luck!

How come the Hivelocity 1Gbps Unmetered Port cost only $499 while other charge $1000-$2000 ?

I ask your sales, they told me it is on dedicated port.
Honestly, do i really get what most provider told me, DEDICATED PORT ?

I mean when they put too many users on a quite full pipe, i don't always get what i have been promise(full 100mbps speed) on a so call DEDICATED PORT.


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How come the Hivelocity 1Gbps Unmetered Port cost only $499 while other charge $1000-$2000 ?

Actually around $500,- would be a realistic price nowadays for a dedicated, unmetered gigabit port from providers that purchase their bandwidth in large amount (and no doubt, Hivelocity is one of those that buy larger amounts of bandwidth). It is a realistic price for 1 Gbps dedicated.

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Pretty doable charging $500/mo for 1Gbps on single server. However, once you get 10-20 servers for that price, and they are all bursting at the same time, then it may not be sustainable...


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Pretty doable charging $500/mo for 1Gbps on single server. However, once you get 10-20 servers for that price, and they are all bursting at the same time, then it may not be sustainable...

That would actually be sustainable!. However, lately a lot of starting streaming platform clients try host from 10 to a few hundred x 100TB and 50TB servers with gigabit ports at $50 - $150 each and try burst to full gigabit at the same time - that - is not sustainable!

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Pretty doable charging $500/mo for 1Gbps on single server. However, once you get 10-20 servers for that price, and they are all bursting at the same time, then it may not be sustainable...

Sustainable, but not very profitable. In reality those 10-20 servers won't burst at the same time. Unless they are all part of a CDN of sorts (aka the whole softlayer/simplecdn fiasco).
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Sustainable, but not very profitable. In reality those 10-20 servers won't burst at the same time. Unless they are all part of a CDN of sorts.

Lately a group of clients doing streaming are shopping around for 'affordable servers' - going for 50TB and 100TB dedicated port deals. They burst at the same time to full gigabit with every server they have (generally 10 - 40 each) as they all stream the same content at the same time.
Unfortunately, not sustainable or profitable on 50TB / 100TB deals at $50 - $150 per server but it would definitely be sustainable and profitable on $500,- - $700,- dedicated gigabit ports.

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Lately a group of clients doing streaming are shopping around for 'affordable servers' - going for 50TB and 100TB dedicated port deals. They burst at the same time to full gigabit with every server they have (generally 10 - 40 each) as they all stream the same content at the same time.
Unfortunately, not sustainable or profitable on 50TB / 100TB deals at $50 - $150 per server but it would definitely be sustainable and profitable on $500,- - $700,- dedicated gigabit ports.

It is extremely rare, but I've seen a single client have 10-20 servers pushing 900Mbps at 95th percentile in a month. All bursting at the same time. $500-$700 model quickly become obsolete unless you want to work for free. Not sure how it's possible to include servers, power, rack space, cab, networking, salary, and all the other costs for $0.50-$0.70/Mbps...
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Not sure how it's possible to include servers, power, rack space, cab, networking, salary, and all the other costs for $0.50-$0.70/Mbps...

You can but IPT for quite a bit less then $0,50 / mbit, especially if you can commit to 20 Gbps or more and yes, even from the premium IPT providers if you work with a reseller.
I cannot disclose our IPT buy pricing, but i can tell you its lower then $0,50 / mbit and count on top of that the savings made by peering of traffic.... and i can assure you that $0,50 per megabit sell price can be quite profitable.

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I plan to get the Leaseweb server on volume network to run my video streaming site.

Another choice is Choopa(USA) which have a better speed.
Leaseweb advantage is have more option of bandwidth upgrade, 250mbps, 500mbps, 1gbps.

I'm worry about the volume network and suspect it is only a shared port. Choopa is confirm have a dedicated port, but only 100mbps and 1000mbps.

Leaseweb has the best network in Europe. Never had problems even in the peak hours. I pushed about 98 Mbps on 100 Mbps port. They are simply great(but a little bit expensive)

My recommendations for video streaming :
1. Leaseweb (899 EUR for 1 Gbps)
2. Hetzner ( 1 TB - 5 EUR )
3. i3d.net ( 100 TB server for 175 EUR). Has some minor problems with bandwidth in the past, but they resolved it quickly.


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I don't think LeaseWeb allows streaming on 1gbps / 100TB deals without their prior written consent. I would double-check if I were you.


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